infrastructure stuff and say this is a guy with a firm grasp of how to do the job. and for independent, i think the competence part of it is a bigger driver than the ideological part of it, but you put the two many tandem, that he's way too left wing and he's bad at getting it done, and people are like what the hell is going on here? jon: very quickly, he's going out on the road to try to sell these big spending bills. how do you expect him to do? >> not too great. you know, he, he is not great at convincing people who don't already agree with him. you know, his best asset is that he's general ily likable to most americans, maybe not to republicans or anything, but he is -- he's not great at selling stuff. and the one thing he was good at selling was himself, and he's just sort of betrayed that image that he sold the voters on about being this moderate, middle of