congressman mullin went on is a product of the confusion and chaos in the biden administration's withdrawal from afghanistan. as you said, members of congress are getting a lot of calls can you help this person? can you help that person? so it's not crazy to think that they would try to help somebody. but, at the same time, the state department and the defense department were just struggling minute by minute trying to get people on planes and out of there. then there was this terrible deadly attack. so i think that mullin's act was basically a product. it would not have happened if the withdrawal had been a more organized affair. >> mike: chuck, is there intense pressure on the state department to come up with a number of americans and afghan partners who have gotten out since the u.s. military went wheels up? >> yes, there is. and they are struggling to do that. for some reasons that are understandable and some others that are probably the result of their own fault. i have to say i think what