shackle the military that might have the marching orders not to go beyond that perimeter. i understand the administration's concern about whether that ignites more problems be. but are we at that point to get these people out, including afghan friends and loyalists, the old government and the united states and nato, that they're worth it? that we'll do that because that is the only way to do it? >> 100%. every american is worth it. even all of these afghans that worked with us are worth it. we have the biggest, best military in the world. there's nothing we cannot do if the leadership decides to give them -- unshackle them to do it. is it going to cause some dust-ups with the taliban? are there shootouts? who knows. we have the ability -- we're the biggest dog on the block. we should get these people out safely. there should not be a question