Choices. They can uphold its travel ban, they can continue to block it, or they can issue some kind of split decision. But whatever happens, the path of the Supreme Court seems pretty likey. Glor we continue with the actor dev patel and his new film lion. All of them were so open to us coming in, this big hoddee wood Film Production walks up to the tiny shores of task mania, and then there was that moment where i got to meet him. And it sounds like a cliche but its the gods honest truth, i felt like i had known him. I had done this pill grammage as him, i had traveled the trainsk i met the women that showed what could be his life in australia, these two people, sue and john. Hi done it all. So when i met him, we, the conversation was pregnant. Glor we conclude with charlies conversation with the cast and director of the film a United Kingdom. The one thing that we talked about quite extensively was this idea of what is what is a leader. Is a leader someone who rules over his people, presides over them or is it someone who is in service to his people. And there was something about the real threats, say, that was humble. He had a lot of hum did shall humility and we wanted to make sure that on conscience and sub conscience ways we wove that through the film. Glor immigration and two new films, when we continue. Rose funding for charlie rose has been provided by the following and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and Information Services worldwide. Captioning sponsored by Rose Communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. Glor good evening, im jeff glor of cbs news. We begin this evening with president trumps controversial immigration order. The 9th Circuit Court of appeals questioned attorneys yesterday on its legality. The ban suspended entry from people for majority muslim country, a ruling on whether the lower court stay on executive order will stay is expectedded in days. An appeal to the Supreme Court is likely. Joining me now from washington is adam liptak of the New York Times. Adam, welcome. Thank you. Glor so no decision today. Do we have any sort of time table on when we might expect this . The court has said it is going to try to rule this week. So thursday or friday would be a good guess. Glor and what happens when that ruling comes down . Well, it depends what they do. They basically have three choices. They can uphold the travel ban. They can continue to block it it. Or they can issue some kind of split decision. But whatever happens, the path to the Supreme Court seems pretty lakely. Glor well, the white house has been pretty firm on this. They are saying at least that this is just a ruling on the appeal itself and not the order. Yeah, were at a preliminary stage. This is a ruling on whether there should be a stay of a temporary restraining order. Those are the earliest parts of the litigation. And the courts are just now looking at whether they should freeze the status quo while the courts decide. This could take a long time, whether the travel ban is lawful or not. But none the less, which way they decide how to go on that will have enormous Practical Implications for lots and lots of people and it will also either sustain the trump administrations general position or it will deal them a political below. Glor lets take this apart if we can just for a moment, adam. So the parts of this are, this is the the suspension of the Refugee Program for 120 days, this is the restriction of entry from the seven countries that have been talked about so much now, for 90 days. This is the syrian Refugee Program being restricted indefinitely. And theres also some other other parts too, the biometrics they talk about. What parts of this are potentially most vulnerable in court. Thats a very good summery. The distinction the government would like to draw is they anticipate they may lose some of this. And they would like to say listen, we can live with letting people back into the country who have already been here. Or people who are here now and want to go visit somebody abroad and come back. But they would like the court to sustain at least that part of the ban that applies to people who are abroad and have never come here yet. And those people generally have fewer Constitutional Rights than people in the states. So that may be a place where the court draws some distinction. Glor adam, from your reporting, what was the genesis of this of this executive order . Who did it come from . Or was it was it a consensus . You know, i havent done a lot of direct reporting on that. But others have reported that it was didnt go through the normal vetting processes. Was thrown together, certainly was sprung on the nation with no notice which caused the chaos at the airports a couple of weekends ago. Glor i wonder if you can talk about what things have been like for you from a newsroom perspective in washington right now for the times. Well, i am, of course, the least of this story. But its not easy to cover. We have been working flat out. I dont know the last time i didnt work 14 hours a day trying to make sense of, keep up with all these legal actions around the country, trying to make sense of what the administration is doing, is trying to achieve what different courts have struck down or suspended different parts of the order. So its been a real challenge. Glor when the washington decision came in, though, last week, that did provide some clarity. Because that applied to the whole country. It was clear in the sense that 2 was the broadest ruling yet. It really suspended every key part of the executive order. And you know t came on a friday night. So people had to scramble to make sense of that. But the Administration Quite promptly started to comply with every part of a judicial order. They they didnt much like at all. And over the weekend they filed an almost immediate appeal to the United States court of appeals for the ninth circuit in san francisco, which has gone about looking at this case in a very met odd kal way, probably from the administrations poib of view, a too met odd kal way, asking for briefs, holding on tuesday evening east coast time an extraordinary telephone hearing that so many people in the u. S. Listened in on. And now apparently working hard to give the Supreme Court a full and reasoned decision for the justices to review. Glor can we talk about the uniqueness of that phone call . I have not seen anything like it. I should say that the ninth circuit has been extraordinarily responsive and transparent. And has really tried to make it easy for the press and the public to have access to this important judicial proceeding. So they made available by live stream a telephone hearing. Telephone hearings are unusual too. But the judges in the case were scattered in san sai and phoenix and honolulu. So the lawyers were in Washington State and washington d. C. And we listened in, as there was an hourlong, quite interesting, quite robust, quite lively, sometimes technical discussion of what the right decision here should be. Glor and the judge who, if he wasnt famous because of the ruling that he issued, certainly became famous because of twitter, not long after that, can you talk a little bit more about him and what his involvement is, if any, as this case moves forward. Well, judge robart of the district court, of course, issued the broad injunction injunction shutting down president trumps travel order. He also, maybe this is a west coast phenomenon, televised the hearing before him. He acted very fast and his decision to the frustration of some, didnt have a lot of legal reasoning. So even as he issued a very broad, temporary restraining order, he didnt really explain to us which part of the constitution president trumps order had offended. So thats one reason why it would be nice if the ninth circuit would really unpack these quite complicated issues. Because there are pretty decent legal arguments on both sides. Glor assuming this does reach the Supreme Court, does the nomination of a new justice at all play any role in how this case plays out . In the short term, no. I would imagine that this goes up to the Supreme Court on an emergency application. The court typically acts on such things within a matter of days. The current Supreme Court nominee judge neil gorsuch, if all goes very well for him will maybe be able to join the court by the end of april and hear arguments then. But this particular train will have left the station by then. So i dont imagine he plays a role. And that of course leaves the possibility of a 44 tie on the current eight member court. Glor and if there is a 44 tie, the original decision from washington stays . Well, whatever whatever the ninth circuit, whatever the Appeals Court does gets upheld without without reasoning from the u. S. Supreme court. So if there is a 44 tie, whatever the Appeals Court says goes. Glor right, okay. Adam liptak from the New York Times joining us from washington. We appreciate your time, adam. Great to be here. Glor im jeff glor of cbs news filling in for charlie rose who is off tonight. Dev patel is here, hi news film lion tells the story of saroo brierley, a story of a young indian boy who gets separated from his brother at a train station and ended up more than 1,000 miles from home. Later adopted bri an australian couple. He struggles with memories of his birth family 25 years later and uses google earth to find them. The film has earned six Oscar Nominations including best picture and best supporting actor for dev patel. Heres a look at the trailer. Where are you from. Calcutta. Which part . Im adopted. Im not really im starting to remember. A beautiful boy. Be very proud of yourself. I have forgotten. Are you okay . I had another family. A mother, a brother. I can still see their faces. What happened . I have to find my way back home 6789 how long were you on the train . A couple of days. A couple of days. It will take a lifetime to search all the stations in india. Do you have any idea what it is like, how every day my real brother screams my name . I always thought that i could keep this family together. I need you saroo, what if you do find home and theyre not even there . And you just keep searching. I dont have a choice. Beautiful. Every night i imagine that im walking the streets home and i know every single step of the way. I whisper in her ear. Im here. Glor we are so happy to have dev patel at this table for the first time. Yes, thank you, thank you for having me. Glor welcome. We were just talking about how many times you have seen the trailer. But this story never gets old, does it . I mean, im so happy to be promoting this film, you know. So i feel, i feel very privileged right now. Glor when did this when did this movie and this story first come to you . Oh, god, i dont remember the exact specifics. But i was sent a news article by one of my agents. And i read it, and was completely enthralled by this young mans journey. And you know, the resilience he kind of showed as a young boy on the streets of india. And then being plucked out of that and being plopped in this community in hobart and tasmania and having such a vivid mem yee memory, to be able to try and find his mother from space, using this app, google earth, that was kind of mind bog elling. And i straight away called up the team and said ive got to get in the room with the filmmakers. This is something that is really appealing to my soul. And ended up knocking on the writer and directors door as they were developing the script. They hadnt even begun putting pen to page and i was there trying to pitch my stuff for the role yz this is garth davis the director, by the way, his first feature film. First feature film. He had done television, he did top of the lake and conquered the world of advertising in australia. Glor and he at first didnt think you were right for the role. Yeah. Yeah. Thats no shall it thats no secret. He didnt want the guy from mar i gold hotel s what i was told. And that only made me more excited. Cuz i didnt want to just be known as the guy from Marigold Hotel. Im 26 years old. I fell like i had so much more to offer, but i never found roles that allowed me to really spread my wings. And i was told to get in the back of the line and send in a tape, which i did, from l. A he watched it. And then there was that awkward couple of months when you dont hear anything. And then i bumped into a screen writer at whole foods, just by chance. And i was like how did it go. Im dieing to know. And luke was like, it was beautiful work and youve got my vote. And then it came to i came to london to do a film with jeremy irons and that is when i got in the room with garth and we had a proper six hour screen test. Glor easy to get pigeoned holed, right. Its easy in a way, because the kind of pond im fishing from is a lot smaller. So to try and show a diversity within that, a versatility is the word, actually, is difficult. And also to pick roles that resonate with big audiences has been at the back of my mind also. And you know, i feel proud of what i have done. You know, i dont think you can compare slum dog to Marigold Hotel or lion. Glor you did slum dog, you did newsroom, whatever else, i find it interesting that you are called the guy from marigold. Yeah, i mean, i guess he was looking for something that was in terms of performance space, a lot more raw, more exposed, more simple. And i hadnt, you know, i did a film just before this, called the man who knew infinite about jeremy irons. It is about a very famous indian mathematician and this was kind of the appetizer to this journey. But it hadnt hit the theaters yet. So there was nothing for me, apart from slum dog where i was a skinny, tiny child, that had showed me as a man. And that was part of the discussion when i got the role was look, were going to need you to not only change your voice to sound australian but you have to put on some weight, curl your hair. I need you to look like an aussie, feel like an aussie, move like an aussie so that is what the next eight months were about. Glor prep was eight months. Yeah, my prep of, you know, going to the gym, getting the accent down, that took a long time for me. And then we actually they shot sonny first because you know, he begins the film, you lead with this beautiful young boy, kind of. Glor extraordinary period. Extraordinary. And he has the confidence of ten men. And hes just, you know, his eyes really, are windows to his soul. Hes a beautiful young boy. And i got to go to india for three weeks and watch him perform with the indian mother and abu who plays his older brother. And that was important for garth and me because a lot of my performance is about nostalgia, its about remembering a past that was so long suppressed in this young man. And you know, watching them do the scenes, i got to take those mental images as my own memories and then i went to shoot my first scene which was, in fact, the climb axe of the film. Glor oh really . Yeah. Glor okay, so did they and did they split it up in terms of shooting they shot sony first, almost entirely and then you, sony is the boy who plays you as a child. They shot the entire indian portion first and then we flew to australia. And he has scenes with Nicole Kidman and david wendtham there also. And then i began my journey there. Glor and the thing about sonys performance is that he doesnt i mean he is yelling at times but it is almost all in the face. So in the face. And to think that hes never been in front of a camera before, is just astonishing. But it was interesting to watch him grow because he came, you know, you know, beginning the film, not knowing what marks were, or boom mics, its a lot. And also the physical pressure of having to perform for nearly, you know, over eight hours a day and be present is so difficult for a young child. But i would watch him grow and understand and grasp such complex emotions by the end of it. He would walk away and get into his head space and and gartd was great because they dont share the same language. So he would use sign language to communicate with him. Glor and you stay in touch with sony. Yeah, we were just in los angeles together yesterday. And we are doing the whole press talk together. Glor okay. That kid has a future. Yes. Glor i think. You described this as a role of a lifetime. I mean this is a sort of careerdefining stuff, no the that you are done. It surprises me to hear that he didnt think you were right for it to begin with, because when you see it, it is sort of like who else would have worked here. I mean, its one of those things where you become an obvious choice and that can scare filmmakers away because there are so very few actors of asian origin, you know, being portrayed on the screen that theyre like hes the obvious guy. We need to find someone knew. And i had to go and throw my hat in the ring and show why i get some of the work. But. Glor what is saroo like . Hes just, you know, i wasnt able to meet him when i first started filming when we were in india. And then we got to hobart and were filming minutes away from his home. I actually met his parnlts first, sue and john and they took me around the home, showed me the taskmania tshirt that he turned up off the plane on and all these pictures of him and his brother mantosh. And you know, all of them were so open to us coming in, this big hollywood Film Production walks up to the tiny shores of tasmania. And then there was that moment where i got to meet him. And it sounds like a cliche but its the gods honest truth. I felt like i had known him. I had done this pill grammage of him, i traveled the trains, i met the woman that first showed him the picture of what could be his life in australia, these two people, sue and john. I had done it all. So when i met him, we, the conversation was pregnant it was already, we were just talking about such complex stuff and i just wanted to know a lot of my performances is a very still space. Its a man in front of a laptop trying to grapple with his past and with each click of that mouse hes getting one step closer to reunification, his destiny. And i wanted to know how that felt, how plausible it was in his head. Did he actually think that he could find her. He spoke