my guess is -- a lot of these are air force people. this has been the kind of war they had no front and everybody knows somebody who is lost. it's difficult to divorce yourself. even a duty like this that's sort of administrative and sort of logistical. for these people it's difficult to divorce themselves from the loss. it's their loss too. >> indeed. as we are approaching what i believe is towards the end of the dignified transfer of these 11 of our 13 fallen soldiers from thursday's attack in kabul, we did count 11 caskets there. flag draped coffins carrying their remains. let me bring you back into the conversation. do you know specifically what happens here? do you know to where these four trucks carrying the remains, where they will go next? >> yes, these trucks will go to the medical examiner's office