and as you mentioned earlier, reminiscent of the kind of flip-flopping that president trump uses to hide the ridiculous remarks that he makes. >> are there things -- final question, are there things the international community or people that are watching this right now and feeling that feeling of sort of like infinite sorrow can do? >> yes, definitely, and i really recognize that feeling of impotent. i'm feeling it myself. our office has been flooded with phone calls and e-mails of people wanting to help and wanting to jump in airplanes and help put out the fires. and that's a really admirable and understandable feeling. unfortunately those of us here in the states and around the world, regular citizens or small ngos we can't hop in a plane and put out a fire. that's the responsibility of the brazilian government, but there is a lot we can do.