you notice anything? none of these paper have donald trump on them. he is in none of the headlines. that is exceedingly rare in the era of the ubiquitous president. and guess what? he wasn't on the front of yesterday's papers either. here is a question i think for both democratic strategists thinking about how to beat donald trump and the media thinking about how to cover him, particularly during the campaign and when it wraps up, is all the attention good for donald trump and bad? is it good to not be on the front page or bad? i think it's incredibly intense debate. the actors in the media and political system and how they relate to the president. here to talk about is josh marshal, danielle moody-mills and gilani cobbs. give them a hand. [ applause ] let me first stipulate when --