and it is remarkable to watch him continue to do this. >> yeah, i thought one of the things chairman jerry nadler said yesterday during the hearing was particularly compelling speaking about the need for urgency. there's been some complaint and professor turley yesterday during the testimony said he thinks things are moving too quickly. but the counter point to that as chairman nadler said is this president continues to seek interference in the election. he must be stopped. we can't just wait until the next election, because if he's rigging the election, then we can't count on that as an effective way to remove him from office. and so the fact that rudy giuliani is still out there seeking election interference and the fact that president trump began this effort with president zelensky the day after robert mueller testified about his last effort to interfere with the elections suggests he's a recidivist, encourageable and we need impeachment and need it quickly. >> thank you both for sharing your expertise tonight. joining me now one of the members of congress who was on that house judiciary committee responsible for drafting and