understand talked about criminal justice reform or due process or kentucky's incarcerating too many people, and this seemed to literally come out of nowhere from someone who had just lost an election and was not really like comenseerate with the way he generally had talked about his public project. >> well, matt bevan's records have been mixed up, chris. he was certainly at the white house and there when president trump signed a criminal justice reform package, but many kentuckians have been at the forefront, senator rand paul, holly harris, an advocate for criminal justice reform. on christmas day governor bevan would often issue criminal justice reform or pardons, and remember his very first act as governor was taking away the voting rights of those folks. >> that is great point, and those -- a large percentage of those have been restored by governor bashir who defeated him