he's like a failed actor that wanted to get really involved in this and get a little attention for himself and committed crimes but is three to four years going to be something we really need to throw the book at someone for? i don't know. >> i think the deterrent question is quite live. none of this has gone away. the big lie is being cultivated every day. the idea that democrats will steal it again. i'm watching in the california recall. there's these wild viral rumors. you do got to create some strong messages to people. this kind of behavior will lead to very serious punishment just as basic means of preserving peace. >> it's a long time. i'm not sure it's enough time for qanon when we know that 50% of people locked up are there