number. this is something used in minnesota for over ten years. i think it's a good, solid process. it's very objective instead of subjective. >> here is my question. here is the thing, you said this, and i heard you say it before, that this is restoring confidence. i read other republicans say that. the reason for the erosion of ballots -- we're going to change the verification procedure. the reason is to restore confidence. the confidence was taken away by lies, constantly told about the election. if i go around saying, brad raffensperger is a gamble, keep him out of casinos and they keep you out and you say why, they say because people think you are a gambler, there's a public perception, that's not a good fluff reason. you can't point to the misinformation and rebuilding confidence as a justification for substantive changes if those were lies being told that eroded the confidence.