also the lead house manager for the second impeachment of donald trump and he joins me now. congressman, let's first start on this statement by psaki today and the executive privilege question. last night we were gaming this out a little bit. the ex-president says he's going to invoke it, the current president says he will not. what does that add up to constitutionally and practically for your committee? >> when the former president says he's going to invoke executive privilege, it's got to make you laugh because he doesn't have an executive privilege because he's a former president. i know he thinks he's the president, but he's not. it's up to the current president. if you read the supreme court's decision on u.s. versus nixon back in 1974, the justice said you're balancing overwhelming interest in the truth versus cases dealing with national security. here you got the public's overwhelming interest in the truth and national security on the same side because the value of national security is invoked