>> right, enes kanter thank you so much for joining. us >> thank you. brother >> andy slavitt is the white house leader for -- and selfishness do doom the coronavirus response. he joins me now. andy, scott gottlieb on last week on the show said something i found very encouraging, which was his belief that the delta wave on the backside of it we're entering a period when we were not going to see, barring some huge new mutant variation, things like this, that we are achieving a level of immunity collectively through antibodies, postinfection, and vaccination but we're not going to have this kind of situation. do you feel the same way? >> i think it's a little too early to say. that is often right, nobody has ever been right, so i think we need to be a bit cautious but when i think he is noting is that we are reaching a point in many parts of the country where