not like the fbi rolled them up in december 30th saying you guys are planning on doing a bunch of stuff. in this case the stuff was done in some cases on camera. >> yeah. absolutely. and i think the indictment lists numerous steps that they took that make this very clearly not an issue of puffery or planning in the future. if trying to overthrow the government or interfere with the peaceful transfer of power is not seditious conspiracy, the question is, what is? so i think unlike those recent cases or not so recent cases, i feel like we are in the tv way back machine tonight. >> right. >> but those other cases where it was much more attenuated, i should say, and much less clear as to what the actual official act was that they were trying to