explicit, there and the others it is not. which in some ways make those other ones, you know, more incriminating and so far as they do not have that language, it looks a lot more like an actual attempt to purport to be the electors. >> right. that is part of the committee interest in this. trying to see whether there was coordination. how exactly all of this came to be. was it the trump campaign, or white house involved in plotting all of this. the interesting thing here to historically is that we have to look back over 60 years, 1960, back when there was some of the disputed election in hawaii, in all places, where nixon had actually been certified their. imagine a republican could win hawaii. there were alternate slates of electors then sent. but this was in the middle of an active recount. so, you have an entirely different variable there about the you did not have in these cases. but you see a lot of these republicans in these states press for it anyway. >> i wonder too, i don't know