how tough does biden need to be with vladimir putin? >> well, i think he ought to be very tough in a number of respects. the question is whether that's what he is prepared to do. let me give you two examples. biden and his team have said that the completion of the nord stream 2 pipeline between russia and germany is not something they want to see happen. they think it would be detrimental, but even acknowledging that statuary sanctions are been triggered, biden waived the sanctions. that may be a signal to putin that biden may talk tough but the action doesn't follow. the second is on the hacks on solar winds and others. putin has a script he has used many times, he has said it directly to me. the russian state didn't do