on their own. it brings me to jonathan allen's quote in part, in what he wrote. he said republicans are taking a decidedly trumpian to the possibility of a u.s. default. only a sucker pays debts. is that the legacy of the 45th president, you know, that the republican party now has been made in the image of trump, and that is a guy who did not pay his debts. that is something we all know. >> well, to be fair the republicans didn't pay their debts first. every time someone says, oh, i'm a fiscal conservative i want to say, so you're a democrat. because republicans spend money and don't pay for it. wars, medicare part d, the tax krut, the trump tax cut. they didn't pay for any of that. this debt was created overwhelmingly by republicans. also, the kind of spending democrats want to do is actually good for the economy, health care, education, job opportunities. it really helps not like defense. it is ridiculous to say that you're fiscally conservative and republican, no, you would be a democrat.