last week was difficult. heart breaking in many ways. a at the end of the week we suspended operations with a plan to wind down. as we spent time over the weekend, we talked to advertising partners and readers and viewers an listeners and investors. i think ozy is part of this moment, and it's not going to be easy. i think what we do with newsletters and tv shows, original tv shows and podcasts and more as a place. >> let's talk about this phone call. did you know that your partner, the co-founder of this company was going to impersonate a youtube executive on a call? >> no. and it's sad, and it's difficult. it was wrong. obviously they figured it out very quickly. >> here's the thing. someone would wonder, perhaps, and you're on a call with goldman sachs, trying to score $40 million in funding. why were you not on the call and how did you not have knowledge of the call? >> part of the fundraising process, you talk to a lot of people. i'm not on every call. there are lots of reference calls that happen. they probably talked to 3, 4,