house, and they got a steak knife. and he said something about splitting the side of his throws. >> and if the knife didn't work, terry told rod that he had a backup plan. >> he i had a plan b, he said it was an ax on the wall of the garage. he said that was plan b. >> which you can clearly see in the crime scene photos. there is no way you would know that unless you are there. >> importantly. were any of those details, detective, that you just listed where they're online. within the newspapers? >> no. >> so this cell me is telling you a story that is exactly matches your evidence, with the observations at the scene? >> yes. not only is it much in the evidence, is filling in some of the gaps. >> the case against harry white was starting to look your tight. but rod, the informant, wasn't done talking. >> coming up -- >> she is the one that told him, we've got to do this now. you've got to this for your family. >> she? >> she said, we've all have our dirty little part in this. >> one more jaw-dropping