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of the president as legislator in chief. so less of president biden meeting with lawmakers on the hill, getting in the weeds on different negotiations, and instead, you'll see the president talking directly to american people and having events and speeches and things that are more in that space. and the idea is to from the white house's perspective, try to shed this image as the president as the president being the president of the senate as opposed to the president of the united states. he's gotten some criticism of that. so they don't want the president to be in those sorts of dynamics publicly so much because look, if you're negotiating it, you own it. and that's the successes and failures and we've seen a lot of failures out of congress and the president getting behind bills that haven't gone anywhere so they want to tone that down and focus on what he sees as his successes and talking to the american people about what their concerns are. >> thank you. so we talk a lot about

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