>> they've actually never defended that, chris. actually in all the hearings you've seen, it's just attacks on us as members. oats attacks on the process. no one has defended the president's cheating scheme i ukraine. no one has defended him refusing to give us documents. and actually i think that goes to a larger point here, which is this is no longer ability what the president did. we know what he did. it's about what we should do. should we do nothing? should we allow this to continue? should we allow future presidents to do this, or should we say we have a duty under the constitution to act, and now is the time to act? >> you know, maya,iest around during watergate and i was watching in washington and i thought the same thing. i don't like seeing people go to jail, staffers especially. bullet if we had let them all get away with it, they would have gone on and on and kept escalating their evil. >> yeah, i think this is the big concern here is what are we
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