they are otherwise ukrainian citizens but not everyone is a believer. there are certain people who just stuck there for economic reasons. we spoken to many families on this side of the board, ukrainian territory. they could not leave because they did not have housing anywhere else and they could not afford to move so yes if they are now ordering some sort of evacuation, it could disrupt the lives of innocent civilians and making them actor in this theater that apparently russia wants to concoct in order to cause, create a cause for war. >> nina, you have been closely following the russian troops build-up. i want to play admiral james on "morning joe" says how long putin could hold the line.