companies are extremely vulnerable to cyber attacks, and when you look at companies basically running the internet it's essential that they invest in the security they need so they are not attacked and they understand they need to work with government as soon as possible should something happen, so systems cannot only be online quickly and attackers can be identified as you saw in the colonial pipeline case, and you saw colonial quickly reach out to the fbi for assistance immediately upon learning their computers systems had been taken over, and there's not a large company in the united states that is not vulnerable to this because cyber attackers decided it's more profitable if they attack a company and take over their system for ransom rather than trying to steal the ip. >> and then the pipeline ceo defended his choice to pay the ransom and he said it was the hardest decision he ever had to