the white house says there's been no vote to start the impeachment inquiry and nancy pelosi affirmed last night she wasn't willing to do that. no real precedent here. is there legal ground to force the white house to comply with these subpoenas? >> there might be. i mean, if you go back to the case of united states against nixon, the supreme court did uphold a subpoena for the -- for the records. the white house tapes records. so there is some authority. but most of this stuff exists by custom. it's usually -- it's usually worked out. however, if the administration continues to stonewall and the story -- the underlying narrative -- doesn't hold up and apparently it's not, then the house is going to be prepared -- is going to be prepared to act. and we're, of course, in a highly fluid situation but even at this point, one i think would be able to argue successfully that there's probable cause to believe that high crimes and misdemeanors have been committed in several ways. >> so this afternoon, stuart, we learned that rick perry, the