it was like walking in and sitting down with the family. this is donald trump mobbing up foreign policy, end of the story. this is trump too weak to win reelection on his own asking the leader of ukraine to bury joe biden for him. this is the most trumpian story of all of the trump era. this is happening outside of the government with a guy he knew from new york city. >> no question that somewhere when they make the movie there will be a meeting between giuliani, trump, and maybe campaign people and they sit and talk about here is the plan. rudy you're going out on your own and you're going to make this happen and i will push every lever i can in the white house to hef raj this.