around the country, voters, clearly if they had something to hide here they would be trying to hide it. i can't believe he is doing this, it implicates that trump is part of a chemoand republicans that defend trump see and what voters see is a side that that they're being very open. if they're being very open they can't have possibly done something wrong. >> i don't think that rudy giuliani has been open about trying to pursue business relationships with some of the same alleged sources. the ukrainians, brian, can you weigh in here, this is not just about love of country as the president says, rudy is trying to get paid. >> yeah, he is trying to get paid, he is a associated with some very unsavory characters. i want to go back to the point of what we're talking about here. there are things that are true