frustration with a lot of parents, randi. if you waited for every person who is still nervous about covid, and many rightly are, if you waited for the vaccination rates to get where teachers or other groups want them to be, you will be waiting forever because the vaccination rate is never going to get -- with these kids it is so low right now. especially with younger children. you will never get to a place where you could say we've met the threshold, you could have kids in masks forever. isn't that the right approach dr. mcbride talks about, if you feel you need to wear a mask for yourself, do it, protect yourself, but don't force everyone else to wear them? >> look, in pre-delta, pre the american pediatricians coming out and saying the masks will really help in terms of delta, we were walking into this school year with lots of places not having mask mandates. i don't disagree with, you know, what lucy just said about -- and lucy and i have had these