senate issue and the thing that works for manchin, even if he's alone, he likes that position. he's comfortable doing this to progressives, he can'ting bullied on cable or prime time news, that kind of thing doesn't move him. if he's alone, he'll work with that. i think he feels as though -- just knowing from covering him, that the rest of the party is going to have to ultimately come to him at some point and say okay, joe, what do you want in this bill? then he can be in the position he likes to be as that key wheeler dealer on getting something done. >> i mean, let me follow up on that second part, garrett, then i'll get to monica one more time. what does joe manchin want besides a cut in the size and scope? is he supportive of all the ideas in there and just doesn't want to fund them or is there something specific he's looking for? is this about oil, gas and coal subsidies for west virginia?