in that situation if only we could do a better job getting people vaccinated. >> there have been different ways people tried to send a message within your state. i mean, the governor has singled out the unvaccinated as well. is there anything that's working? take winston county, only 20% are vaccinated, anything other than dead bodies around somebody's family, has anything else worked? >> you know, chuck, there are a lot of reasons people haven't gotten vaccinated, and there are still people with access problems, people susceptible to misinformation. we have people making partisan political choices in spite of the facts, but we have seen alabamaians improve vaccinations, past month and a half been personally touched, knowing a family member or