some people see that as a negative. he said washington is broken. i know the players and how to get things done. i was in congress for decades and know how to work with members of congress. what's the relationship now? what's the outreach to senators? >> reporter: it is a delicate dance. from the get-go we have seen president biden and the white house trying largely to defer to congressional leaders. they were able to sort of outsource that to nancy pelosi and chuck schumer. they have confidence in pelosi's ability to get things going in the house than they have with senator assume every in the senate given the way that the power in the senate really seems