as we've covered on this show, the u.s. saw a spike in book banning this year. most of the stories usually involved banning certain books, many that center on black or lgbtq stories from school and school libraries. now they're taking it to local public libraries. the texas tribune says a library system shut down for three days so six librarians could conduct a, quote, thorough review of every children's book in their collection. the directive from the county coming after a number of texan republican lawmakers targeted hundreds of books for review this year. many parents, librarians and authors are against it calling it censorship and some are fighting back. to talk about all of this are we're proud to welcome deborah caldwell stone.