election. i think the idea, the question of whether or not american democracy is still a sacred cause, it's a question we all need to answer. i think at the end, to ask the question of who are we? is an absolutely central question in this moment, we faced such an enormous challenge whether or not we will survive as a democracy as we know it. >> in the speech when the president said, we know who donald trump is, the question is who are we. i agree with you, it's a central question we. do you think folks really understand the moment that we're in, there are a lot of people that say, i think some people are being dramatic, it's a bit of hyperbole. there are people out there, serve, that don't believe how great the threat is to our democracy in 2024. >> and to my demise, great question, if those folks are complicit in the danger it seems to me. we need to understand the 25%