if you look at the evangelicals and so many others, they really have a great respect for our vice president. and so do i. and so do, i think, most people. >> back with us to talk about all of it, ashley parker, jonathan lamere and nancy cook. ashley, how much faith should anyone put in that endorsement right there, even this loyal, some would say pliant vice president. is that loyalty there until it's not? >> that's exactly right. as anyone who works for this president knows, things can change in a second or with a tweet. that said, my understanding is that while there are these flare-ups between the president and the vice president's camps, quite frankly, more so between the two men, the president will sometimes wonder, you know, when pence is going out and doing a good job, voters for the