get in this policy debate that they think is relevant and it's just not the case. policy in presidential campaigns doesn't matter. re-elections are always a referendum on the incumbent. folks who think they're going to go out and say my 800-page energy plan that includes eating worm meal is going to sell voters in michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, ohio and florida in the swing states are out of their damn minds. so, you know, i know they all want to go out and be the most virtuous about climate change or the most virtuous about energy or what have you. it's just terrible politics and terrible optics. >> rick, because you and i are old enough to remember this past spring, we want to pause to remind the folks watching of the headlines we witnessed out of this white house just this past summer. for example, late june, "new york times" first reported the president approved military strikes against iran, but then abruptly called them off. remember that one. the president then met with the