but at the same time says, well, even if i did do it, there was nothing wrong with that. then he will deflect. there always seems to be some subplot at play here. in this case there's the subplot he's trying to diversity attention to about biden and what the bidens might have been up to in ukraine, very similar to the russia investigate the investigators narrative they were trying to push. i feel like giuliani in this cnn interview got exactly what he had wanted for months because he has been pushing to reporters for months and months this story about the bidens and the ukraine and corruption there. and so finally now that's on the national stage because of this whistle-blower attempt. and then finally they will discredit. so like the investigate the investigators, you know, the president will call this a partisan witch hunt. he already accused the whistle-blower of being partisan, which he said he doesn't know who the whistle-blower is at the same time, so how can he know they