between these two guys? >> i think a lot. unfortunately bob mueller didn't, wasn't able to pull the financial strings that would give us a better sense of donald trump's past business and financial dealings, including with russia, including with other countries around the world. we know from recent press reporting that he is deeply in debt. but i do think that it's not just puzzling, but it's inexplicable how he has fawned over vladimir putin and continues to give vladimir putin and the russians a pass, refusing to acknowledge that the russians interfered in the election, and not dog things that i think are necessary to stop russia's influence operations, which i'm sure are under way in a very intense manner now. i know that vladimir putin would like to see donald trump re-elected because donald trump has given vladimir putin a lot,