be in two weeks. but something is ultimately going to happen. the democrats will figure it out. and that is going to be a win for biden. how big a win? who knows. but it is a win for biden. but trump is on a parallel track. he is still very popular in red america. he is growing in popularity among communities of color, we see that men of color in particular, during the 2020 election, grew their support for donald trump as compared to 2016. so this is just -- this is something to be constantly kept in mind. in terms of what is in front of the democrats right now, in terms of the packages, the sooner it gets done in the last time they are airing their dirty laundry, the less inviting, the better. so i think it's more of a question of timing, let's wrap it up, but never losing sight of donald trump. >> bill kristol, 60 seconds