ourselves. that may sound like rhetoric, defeated ourselves but let's be clear of what those words mean. that's someone sympathetic enough to donald trump to go put his military record on the line and work for him, telling everyone donald trump succumbed and defeated. as bullies often do, the way that donald trump succumbed to him, it was important for him to stay out of the light. he made the deal with the taliban but left it with somebody else to clean up and own the withdrawal. president biden argues the truth is this is past times. the focus is getting it done and addressing, getting it done while making sure to tell washington he's got this. i am joined now by michelle goldberg, a columnist at "the new york times" and josh