on a serious note, this is a republican governor who is responding to bette midler because she was saying, you know, joe manchin wants everyone to be like the folks in west virginia and she called them poor, illiterate and strung out, which is not true by any means. but i think she was trying to make a point. joe manchin is not up for reelection, is this somebody who can survive another set of elections. can a republican unseat him? because i'm not sure you can get a democrat out of west virginia. >> i think joe manchin has done great politics in west virginia. he has not faced a lot of threat from the left here. i think kyrsten sinema is in a lot more trouble in arizona. frankly, democrats are going to have to be able to show or move beyond the procedural and debate of the senate right now. joe biden a creature of the senate but he's going to have to