do impeachment, did the calculus change because of this egregious behavior? or was this behavior just so egregious the politics no longer mattered? and that in the end is what schiff basically said. he said, look, you know, i think that the 30,000-foot thing was democrats looked at this and said, the president of the united states is trying to do exactly again in 2020 what he did in 2016, except this time he's trying to do it as the president of the united states and not just a candidate, and that in the end was just intolerable to pretty much everybody in the democratic caucus. >> and, mike, it's kind of two sides of the same coin. if the offense is bad enough, then the politics of it -- political calculation does change. >> right. yeah, no, i think it totally has. i mean, i think it's a pipe dream for the republicans to think that somehow impeachment will help them because one of two things are going to happen. it's either going to get bad enough that republicans are going to start defecting, which will cripple the president, or the republicans will go into --