ago. you've got connections increasingly to ukrainian oligarchs, including this gentleman, mr. firtash. it is increasingly looking like a cloudy scheme that involves an effort to both profiteer and profiteer off election interference with rudy giuliani at the center of it. i think everything that has happened this works testimony today obviously the most damning, but with a we've seen over the course of the last week and a half, and i think going forward we're going to find out more and more details of the extent to which rudy giuliani is at the center of what looks like a criminal conspiratorial enterprise on behalf of the president. the point that swalwell made that's super important. you will remember like iran-contra, you had the president saying all these guys around me were freelancing. i didn't know about this. that was reagan's defense. in this case it's impossible for rudy giuliani to freelance on donald trump's behalf. he's not in the government. the only connection he has as to this directly through the one principal, and that's donald trump. so that, i think, puts a lot of onus on giuliani and puts a lot