so sometimes he'd use ridicule and there were these members of congress, they were called the martin biden official, and it was -- where is the mean marjorie greene. leader of the republicans. stigmatizing the opposition is very much part of politics. >> and like in today's situation with these gas prices, the president seems to be blaming the oil companies. the american oil companies. but he doesn't slam dunk, go after them the way i think that jonathan fdr would. have you wrote the book on fdr's first hundred days and he, when it came to, it as i read in your book and, others he would smack right at the big industrials who he thought should be the target. let's listen at the way joe biden talked about gas prices today. and i'm picking up a part of this where he was particularly