>> yes, and that's an excellent point. and all of those senators that you are describing, angus king gave that unbelievable speech where he explained his movement on this issue and why he now supports the rules change. that was a phenomenal speech. maggie hassan, those were relatively recent, as you point out. these moderate senators among the democrats had to get there. joe manchin had to go through his motions, right? manchin said, no, you democrats are doing the wrong bill, i swear, you know, if we do this bill the way i know how to do the bill, all the republicans vote for it. okay, joe, you write the bill. thus proving to himself in front of all of us that actually the republicans weren't going to vote for any of it. he had to go through that process, too, and senator sinema, i mean, as ben jealous said on the show, had to get to a point perhaps where it was lacking like she was going to be arizona standing in the way of