trying to tell him to call it off. you had ivanka trump saying whoa, we need to stop this. you had sean hannity and allies saying yo, this is not good. the question then becomes which is the dog and which is the tail? because fox news serves a constituency that knows their under pinnings are. but they also have to compete with people this their right, the news max, they're in a competitive environment to get the most maga and authoritarian audience to stick with them. i wonder what do you make of this? because does this look like something donald trump is leading or something where donald trump and his followers are going along with a rabid crowd? what do you make of it? >> joy, what's clear to me and sean hannity texts are interesting. it's an interesting little subplot in the bigger story. the fact of the matter we all watched almost a year ago, not