throw their duffel bag on a plane and get out of there. they've got heavy equipment. um, armored -- armored cars, helicopters. we're not sure if they'll take all of that with them but they certainly could. and as you cited, the -- the british have left. the french have left. others are -- are scaling back, if they haven't left already. and yet, the pentagon also says they want to do these airlifts right up to the very end. so it's going to be a very intricate dance to continue to take out people who are trying to get out. more desperate, by the day. while 5,000 u.s. troops and their equipment try to get out of there. i mean, we had -- one of my npr colleagues had an amazing interview today. it was with a marine master sergeant who's been running air traffic control. he's been living in a tent on the airfield there since august 13. um, hundred flights a day coming in and out. and they work 12-hour shifts. and then, even when you're off, there are still planes landing