taliban and said, you know, we would like to do business with you. you have all kinds of things we can partner on, possibly help finance the rebuilding of your country, and by the way, there are some wonderful minerals in the ground that maybe we might be able to work out a deal on extracting. i think if that was not in play, maybe this assurance that the international community says it has from the taliban might feel meatier, but nations like russia and china seem like they're giving the taliban another way to be part of the community of nations. >> that's a great point in the long run. and i don't think anybody should be so arrogant as to predict what afghanistan is going to look like in three to five years. i most certainly am not. in the short term, we need to get our people out. we need to get our allies out. and the statement that came out by the united states, signed by 97 other countries, holding the taliban accountable for getting those people out, and let's be clear about this. we are using the word leverage.