is rudy giuliani still your personal attorney? >> well, i don't know. i haven't spoken to rudy. i spoke to him yesterday briefly. he's a very good attorney and he has been my attorney, yeah, sure. >> that was an interesting response to the president, who was appearing to distance himself from his own attorney at the white house. but shortly after that comment, giuliani told the "washington post" he is, in fact, still representing the president. natasha and john are back, as promised. so, john, you first here. what's your read on the president's reaction to giuliani and that question there? even though today he's coming out in his defense. >> well, we know one thing about donald trump, his chief loyalty is to himself. and in any situation, if he finds someone who all of a sudden either has become hostile to him or gotten in trouble, he