birthday. happy birthday, ashli. we must all demand justice for ashli and her family. >> steve benen joining me now. also a producer for the rachel maddow show and author of the book "imposters." when i was covering the justice for j6 rally on the ground in washington, d.c., i heard this exact same thing that we just played from the former president about who ashli babbitt was, the fact that they saw her as hero. talk to me about how dangerous this is tolerance paint her as this kind of martyr without recognizing and acknowledging why it was that she was shot and what it was she was trying to do. >> this is fundamental question. when we celebrate those who are responsible for political