the proportion of people age is 60 years and over in the world will double from 11 to 22 percent for the years 2050. so many countries have mrs. a worthy challenge and are creating various ways to properly care for their aging population. while others continue to not see this as a priority. will compared to the other parts of society for demanding resources. i'm going to use on this episode of 360 view. we're going to look at the various a global elderly care system, the probably an existence and why some of the higher income countries are refusing to accurately address the problem. let's get started. ah, well, quality of life is improving and medical care continuing to advance is a goal worth achieving. the growing number of an aging population is creating a new challenges on society. now countries have various ways of handling the care of their elderly. and while some are rising to the challenge, others are letting down their aging population. and surprisingly, it is some of the most advanced 1st world countries who seem to be facing a crisis in their elderly care system. and depending on who you're talking to as to whether the fault is on the government or society itself. now norway, sweden, in switzerland, or city high standard with 100 percent pension coverage, as well as accommodation by public transport, and great in home care incentives for families. meanwhile, countries like the united states, find themselves pushing elderly into residences with care insurance, being mainly privatized by large companies. now, canada, who has over the last decades and more funds and to drugs and hospitals, has not promised to spend $6000000000.00 over the next decade to address their aging population money they plan to raise from taxes. but ultimately, the question for our country to decide is whether the best interest for their aging population is for care to be provided from within the family or by residential care and nursing house. we are joined now by joseph in karate, a broadcast journalist and media trader based in kenya. welcome and thank you for joining us. you know, just been at the world health organization has had the number of seniors age 65 and above could reach 1500000000 in the year 2050. in that year, the number of elderly will go more significant than the population of children. now one of the main reasons is medical advances, increasing life expectancy. so what are the main differences? do you see between elder care and western versus other societies? thank you so much for that question. maybe i need to start on a bucket drop of the can known situation according to the can population 2019 report that was done in august 2019 the can. and population of the current moment stands out for the $7000000.00 canyons and the elderly of $65.00 eggs and above about 6 percent of the total population. which is basically translate to about 1800000 of elderly people that are more women than men in this category. because across the board, there are more women than men in society. best coming. and then of course, the other thing is that the life expectancy of men in kenya is no other than that of women by about 5 years apart. so yes, the elderly elder care in kenya is not like the west where families tech, they are old people, to homes, mastering homes, basically because of our culture and our traditions, the old people or the people living in the neighborhoods in their communities. taken care of by their grandchildren by son and daughter, so i don't see about changing very much soon. so that is where we are at the moment. we will be living with our old people in the community. every young people move out and go out to move for walk, they will just have to get them a hand to help all patch them up with the other family members who are living within the community. i'm wondering about how it seems like in kenyan families, are kept. close elders, are kept in the family home and close to family, rather than putting into nursing homes. are there nursing homes in kenya? first off, and what would make a family choose to put their, their elder in a nursing home rather than keep them in the house. okay, maybe what we need to know is but they are not really provisions for those nursing homes in our set ups as our community, as the african african living, the extended family community care. we do not have that structure. we're having nursing homes for they all don't even for people to be taken care of. people can cattle from their home, from their children, home, from their household. collectively, by glad children or by bad sons and daughters and ad, the house pamphlet hand has gotten by the funding. so the idea of where having all the people being put into homes as a really know to come into there for you will still live with the old parents. and if you are not able to live with them, because maybe of moved out to look for growing up, or maybe you out, but you are faster or something. these are weighed, they some kind of continue to where you get a handheld to help these old people they know at the place to take them as it was. how accommodating is a government when it comes to this? do they give us special motives, special incentives, special understandings to families? if they are taking care of their page, it can take care of their patriarch or their matriarch. i mean, it is expensive. yes, and government does support the old people. it is, it is provided for in government, social protection spaces. they get some little amount of money to, for their upkeep. something like 2000 can and shillings 30 like when she that is like $20.00. $20.00. you know, no, not $20.00 like $200.00 per household or an elderly bathroom. and what happens is that their households are mopped through their chiefs. it is known that being 2 or 3 elder people in the household, so that documented that actually stand also a suspension given to vulnerable children all funds back to i'm not sure when, but you done by the government. the money is very me got, it may not be enough, but the expectations that fun really should also cheap in and help all the older people in the household. you know, i understand the elder is always the patriarch or the matriarch of the household. and what that says goes, does that still go when the parents are living with their adult children? do they still have that position of hierarchy over their children who are also adults themselves? another thing that happens in african society not only to care, but most homes, but rockhill latino. this is started by trail, kill the men, how they say in the society. and sometimes you find that the households or these homes have polygamy in them. you may find an old man house 2 or 3 wives, but basically is they their home by the one the head of the whole. so it's like men have a higher hand or advantage over how their lives. i lived, we did not community more than that. women and another thing is that should a mom die in, in the household that women will, may remain windows and may not say, as he mighty because basically what windows down to the mighty but men do marry. should you be having one wife and your wife buses or even at the very, at once the most men with mighty because they society or they are feeling is that a man cannot leave alone, they have to get a woman with them. so then it so happens that most households appeal, they are the men call the shots. so women, more like are subdued. but interestingly it's women who keep their homes going. that they're backbone. they're the ones who walk. they're the ones who bought that we've been children. most times more than even 5 as a man. you know, i'm really curious talking with you on this because is this how it's always been or have you seen culture and society change in any way from your grandparents generation to what you're seeing currently in the present? i mean, are you seeing society and pop culture affecting this sort of relationship? yes, i think growing up, i think that's how i've seen it happen. nothing much as the culture traditions deeply embedded in societies. the way people have been socialized away. socialization as tech, and there's really nothing much has changed on the status quo as not been chicken so much. so this is how it does been, and this is how i'm seeing it going. i don't know whether a very soon or late april change, but that to how it does being fall. but the left is being handed down from generation to generation with very little variations, maybe depending on the set up in different households. very, very interesting josephine, thank you so much for chatting. whether it's please stay with us because we're going to be right back. i want to continue this conversation about global elder care with our guest stated, ah huh. ah, ah ah, ah ah ah ah ah ah, in the year of 1954, the united states of america engaged in warfare against the people of vietnam. the white house aborted, the corrupt bobbitt government of southern vietnam. in 1965 americans began their invasion following the aim to defeat the forces of vietnamese patriots. the pentagon was confident that the victory would be on the american side due to its military superiority. however, the vietnamese turned this war into a total hell for the occupants. unable to cope with the guerrillas, the american army started blanket bombing alongside using chemical weapons and napalm which burnt all alive. the village of my lay, where he 1969 american soldiers killed 504 civilians, including 210 children, became a tragic symbol of this war. all in all, during the whole period of this conflict, the usa dropped on vietnam more than $6000000.00 tons of bombs, which is 2 and a half times as much as on germany during 2nd world war. in 1973, the american army under the pressure of the rebels, withdrew from vietnam. and only 2 years later did the puppet regime in saigon fall . however, the vietnamese paid a high price for their freedom. more than 1000000 vietnamese people became the victims of american aggressors. ah, welcome back. we are joined at once again by a broadcast journalist just of inc ronnie out of kenya. now she is it joined us talking about elder care throughout the world. thank you so much for joining us. josephine. thank you. and the previous segment we talked about society and culture causing potential changes within the structure of the family. do you think this is also changing with employment opportunities that might be coming up within society? thank you so much for that question. yes, i'm talking about elder care. oh, globally. i'm muscle. no come yet home. as african culture, we embedded in extended family through culture and socialization over the years. so really not much has changed. so in my view, we have continued handing over generations on how we handle all the people, how we take care of them, how we live, we live within the community. and really we don't find it easy to let them go into nursing homes or even out of our site. we live with them within our setups. and if it so happens that these nobody left or take care of them, then these are weighed, but the family comes together and looks for how hand him to help these old people. but they're not relinquished out to bear to our common children. i mean, our common massey more, more harmful there, then there is no provision for that in our local setups. and really, i don't know, maybe that will change with time. and maybe there some few, many more elderly homes, but and most times people live with their old people within the community. do you have a very much transitioning happening with and it canyon families, as young people finish school and they go up to get jobs? do they usually move away from the home, maybe to more urban areas and in those situations, do they come back home when it's time to care for their parents? most times what happens, these young people, we leave the home to go out and look for jobs in the cities in towns in the neighborhoods. but the fact that that happens is they are still tied to the community, a scenario east that lays a family home base, a father, probably these a mother and their children. once they grow, they will move to their households. and these parents will be left within their home, the 2 of them, or the 3 of them depending if a man has more than 2 wines. but the young people and they are children with state of feel, but they need to take care of them. they're still feeling depth and because society expects you to do that kind of che expects you to do that. traditional expects you to do that. you cannot abandon your old people because that is how you have been socialized. that's how you live. don't bone to in africa, is here to stay and you have to really tech, kill the old people and provide for them where you come. what happens when the parents start to have issues of dementia or other health issues? mental illness. how is that handled? are they able to stay in the home? oh them i think when that happens like any, any conflict, basic problem because then in some instances some of my old people with south class, some of them will be desolate on, may be running to problems that, that those issues but to the community and administration normally deals with their issues like that maybe these i guess like laps, but she wouldn't be involved on maybe they would come and mitigate within the household or in that home where these that problem. but ne basil to report that based on the shoe in my 2nd home on maybe the neighbors would come on to help on the community. would it be bad that your brother keeper, they watch out for each other. it's interesting. you talked about how there is money that is provided for, for keeping the elderly in your home that's helped support it. are there other government structures, other maybe even n g o says step in for support. you know, we're finding here in the united states. cities increasingly are producing laws such as the pay parent act where people are paid. if they have to take off work, an employee can take up to 3 months off of work and be paid while they have to care for an elder. is there any sort of that equivalent in kenya? ok, there are many ways, but the government on the community comes into our system, the elder and maybe i should just talk about it. and then government provisions fast days, the social protection funds which the government and makes use to give their own people. one document that would be no co lead, as the chiefs would document any old people, one over $65.00. yeah. and i do need help. and most times they will deal with the cases of when they do an auto detail bought home. they see whether that home has said children or, or other members of the family, lou able to take care of those old people. if they find that they, the cases that are pathetic, then they will deliver those old people for them to get some support. actually, you'll get about 2000 shillings a month, which is about $20.00 for assistance for the old people. that is our government filed that has been passed by the by parliament. and it's normally distributed by the chiefs and the local administration. both that have records of the old people, in other instances, and they all the people, those who are retired. remember that everybody gets older. you may have been a public sovereignty in your duties. and when you retired, 60 as based pension for you to, for you to carry on with your life. and so you are able to be paid and then continue having a leg and then the other interventions medical probably we have the national hospital insurance fun where you can register. anybody who needs help are for hospital funding and you get deducted about to a $5.00 a month every month for you to be able to access any services in the hospital once you are sick and you are hospitalized. that is another way the government has come in and then for other issues like people who are public, savannah. so our state of the size and even individuals, these are friend which you've gone to build to, ah, called national social security fund. and once you are out over employment, then you have this money sent to you so that you are able to use it because it's like it was, you are savings for that period when you walk in as a public sub. and so those are some of the dimensions, but the government does that. but of course, on the other hand, the basis of private insurance, you can have private insurance or from the different organizations or the different insurance companies. if you are not buy sonya g ram, come get you insurance for you so that when you i seek you able to be attendance from. so there are many dimensions through the government. i'm through a private sector, but try to out and continue to old people's lives. that's amazing, that's really, really good and josephine, i want to thank you so much for joining us from kenya. you're broadcast journalist, me a trainer and obviously very knowledgeable, and how the elders are treated with the new york country. and i really thank you for sharing your expertise. thank you so much for the opportunity. this is an issue very dear to my heart as my own family is struggling with how best to care for our elders is a picture of my family. and while there are multiple challenges every day, there's always been given that my mother and father would share in our home when the time came. as an only child, this is something sometimes not been easy, but i know i'm doing the right thing out of respect and love for everything. my parents have given to me. it was the same thing that my mother did for her parents, as well as her aunt who was able to have children. she modeled to me that this was how our family handled the care of our eldest generation. there's something extremely rewarding about having those who have already experienced so much life share insights with the next generation. i'm greatly saddened by how my own government has not made it a priority to incentivize families to give as much care as possible in their own home. rather for those families who might not have the economic resources, there are almost forced to put their loved ones in a group home. sometimes these group homes are understaffed, and the resources provided to both the caregivers and the patients are extremely limited. i do believe this is a result of america being such a new country as evidenced by those families from other cultures who come to america, still preserved their tradition of carrying in house for their elders. bravo to all of those countries around the world who try everything they can't to invest in the family from the old. it's to the youngest, as each plays a very important role. and i do believe it isn't the best investment for societies future success. this has been your 360 view. thank you. thanks for watching. the ah, what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy confrontation, let it be an 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