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how they thought that the case of 303 creative would be narrowly defined. and i was in agreement with you that i hope that is the case because i think a lot of people have been looking at that and seeing it as opening the floodgates to possible discrimination against lgbtq members for whatever reason, you know, services, or free speech. but at the end of the day, it has created the lgbtq community or made them feel like second class citizens in this country. >> absolutely. i was also, you know, glad to hear it presented in that way that perhaps, it's a lot more-limited, and it can be...

the president again. in 30 minutes, he'll speak from the roosevelt room, explaining the white house's next steps because a lot could change with a ruling that sided with a web designer opposed to same-sex marriage. and a lot will change now that the president cannot constitutionally cancel student debt. joining me now nbc news correspondent julia ainsley who's outside of the supreme court for us, and nbc news white house correspondent mike memoli. noah pransky is here with us as well, and cnbc washington correspondent, emily wilkins. thank you very much for being here, everybody. so ...

roe v. wade. take a look at the decision today. take a look at how it's -- how it's ruled on a number of issues that have been precedent for 50, 60 years sometimes. across the board, the vast majority of the american people don't agree with a lot of the decisions this court is making. >> that's president joe biden yesterday on msnbc, reacting to the supreme court overturning the use of affirmative action in college admissions. you know, willie, it was a fascinating interview. i have to say, though, a little concerned. the new york "washington post" -- "new york post," which is "morni...

that i hope that is the case because i think a lot of people have been looking at that and seeing it as opening the floodgates to possible discrimination against lgbtq members for whatever reason, you know, services, or free speech. but at the end of the day, it has created the lgbtq community or made them feel like second class citizens in this country. >> absolutely. i was also, you know, glad to hear it presented in that way that perhaps, it's a lot more -limited, and it can be interpreted by other courts as well in a lot more limiting way. so, let's hope -- >> let's hope, and let...

welcome to the beat. we have a lot going on tonight. possible legal nightmares increasing for donald trump. you may say doesn't he already have enough legal problems, but with a top campaign lake cooperating with jack smith it is another story. george santos also back in court with a lot of problems. we begin with the wider story we were discussing with the breaking news yesterday, the war on rights waged by a supreme court that said it cared about president but only cares about some precedent. this now trump tax court is that these two rulings, businesses can now legally refuse serv...